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r a m b o l i: here is what i put together
r a m b o l i: https://www.progressiveboink.com/jon/24% 20list.htm
r a m b o l i: season one: blue
r a m b o l i: season two: red
r a m b o l i: season three: green
r a m b o l i: season 4: orange
r a m b o l i: season 5: purple
r a m b o l i: miscellaneous: black
Boiskov: Oh yeah, I wanted to switch out one of my moments with something else
r a m b o l i: FUK U
Boiskov: Jack picks lock to mainframe with hunting knife
Boiskov: in season 4 before the mainframe got blowed up
r a m b o l i: well that can just go in somewhere and displace spritely homosexual saves kim and companion off the list
Boiskov: Sounds good
Boiskov: The order isn't very consequential until we get to the top 20 or so
Boiskov: I think kicking it off with a Jack moment at #100 will be a good call
r a m b o l i: ok
Boiskov: We may each want to count ours up and make sure we're not overloaded
Boiskov: all right, I have 25ish, which is fine considering I'll probably rewrite most of my moments from the last list
r a m b o l i: yeah, i did that, actually...i've got 23, you've got 29 including your original set, justin's got 21, b has 12, and bill only has 11
r a m b o l i: i think anyway
r a m b o l i: does that add up to 100?
r a m b o l i: but it's something very close to that if not
Boiskov: yeah, it's a good enough ballpark figure
Basher Lemming: I put all of mine into notepad last night and it was 15
Boiskov: Do you feel like taking any more? I don't think it'll be a big deal either way
Basher Lemming: ehhhhh
r a m b o l i: oh wait, yeah, bill has 14 by my count
Boiskov: i wish i weren't so intimidating and people would give me yes or no answers
Basher Lemming: yeah it's 14
Basher Lemming: there was one on two lines in my list
Basher Lemming: ps kyle don't let jon get me he's scary
Boiskov: i am fat enough to beat both of you up at the same time
r a m b o l i: jon's a pretty big guy, i'm not sure i can contain him
r a m b o l i: jon can beat up at least 36 8-year-olds
Boiskov: heh, i'll protect you from myself little guy
Basher Lemming: he knows about sports that means he's pretty strong
r a m b o l i: mr. baseball maniac over here
Boiskov: the sporttts guyyyy
r a m b o l i: don't let him twist your ear about baseball, or else, boy, you'll never hear the end of it
Boiskov: why don't you get me some baseball player pogs for my birthday
Boiskov: i like pogs a whole bunch
Boiskov: Do you think #5 deserves to be that high
Boiskov: ?
r a m b o l i: heh, "and then babe ruth did this, and, oh, jackie robinson stole a base in 19-so-and-so," heh, mr. statistics here
Basher Lemming: i will give you my barry bonds slammer
r a m b o l i: ehhh
r a m b o l i: no, i'd be fine with bumping number five down a bit
Boiskov: I'd be nice to see Palmer crack the top 5
Boiskov: though his stare out Air Force One makes #!
Boiskov: *1@
r a m b o l i: especially since the top 3 remained intact from the original list (which was something i wanted to ask you guys about)
Boiskov: I don't think they necessarily need to
Boiskov: I'm fine with #1 staying where it is if you guys are
r a m b o l i: yeah, i kinda felt like all 3 staying up there made it kind of a gyp for someone to read the whole article and come to the end and it's old content, but they did seem like the top moments to me still, so i just left them for now
r a m b o l i: the thing about #1 is that, is it somewhat cheapened by the fact that they've repeated the same idea twice now, with ryan chappelle and then lynne mcgill?
Boiskov: perhaps
Boiskov: is there anything you have in mind for #1?
r a m b o l i: i.e., smarmy asshole ctu director fucks up, deliberates about trying to just escape their troubles, and then mans up and accepts responsibility and sacrifices themselves for the greater good
r a m b o l i: well no, that's why i left it, but is there something you guys would rather see up there?
Boiskov: Not really
Boiskov: I think we should put Michelle's death in there as a moment
Boiskov: just because it was in the top 3 most shocking moments in the show's history
Basher Lemming: I thought that was a part of palmer's death
r a m b o l i: i mean, i figured my ranking was just to get most of the legwork out of the way in terms of groups of ten or so and like the bottom 50-75, but i wanted to certainly get some consensus about the top parts
Basher Lemming: it was the whole first bit of that episode
Boiskov: It'd be kind of a stretch to lump that in, maybe
r a m b o l i: yeah, that's what i was thinking
r a m b o l i: the whole first like 12 minutes of season 5 as one moment
Boiskov: That works, yeah
r a m b o l i: which should probably be higher than number 9 anyway
Boiskov: In that case, I'd bump it to like #4
r a m b o l i: i was thinking even #3!
Boiskov: What about 1. Mason2. "That's what you took from this world, Nina."3. The assassinations4. Jack finds his wife dead5. Pierce calls out Logan
Boiskov: Or wait, swap 2 and 4
r a m b o l i: ok, i'm cool with that
Keasbey Mornings has entered the room.
Boiskov: Kyle, have you been notating these changes in notepad or something by any chance, or should I start re-sorting it?
r a m b o l i: yo justin i'm just going to send you the chatlog of what we've said so far in an html file
r a m b o l i: oh, no i haven't
r a m b o l i: do you mind keeping track?
Boiskov: Nope, I'll do it in Dreamweaver to save the colors
r a m b o l i: ok Cool Beans
r a m b o l i: www.progressiveboink.com/jon/chat.htm
Keasbey Mornings: okay cool
Keasbey Mornings: "spanks a lot"
r a m b o l i: you're very spelcome
Boiskov: shit, it won't let me paste the numbers along with the moments
Boiskov: so moving the entries around is tricky
r a m b o l i: ok, i'll just do it in word, the way i'd done the original list
Boiskov: hot tamales!
r a m b o l i: what are the re-orderings thus far?
Boiskov: #100 is "Jack picks lock with hunting knife" instead of "spritely homosexual"
r a m b o l i: and which season is that?
Boiskov: 4
Boiskov: The top five are1. Mason2. Jack finds his wife dead3. The assassinations4. "That's what you took from this world, Nina."5. Pierce calls out Logan
r a m b o l i: hot balls johnson
Basher Lemming: hey jon how come the cougar wasn't on the original list
r a m b o l i: ok done
r a m b o l i: because wasn't there a mini-list about preposterous kim entanglements?
Boiskov: we did another list that was greatest ever individual frames of the cougar scene
Keasbey Mornings: There was indeed
Basher Lemming: the only mention is during the moment for that dude spinkicking the abusive dad
Boiskov: We could do a ridiculous Kim moments mini-list
r a m b o l i: yeah, i think "most contrived kim entanglements" or "most outlandish kim entanglements" would be good
Boiskov: That'll make four mini-lists, that's a good number
Boiskov: it'll allow for an intermission every two 10-item pages
r a m b o l i: what's the "worst personal 24 spoilers" one?
Keasbey Mornings: me telling jon that he's more like DIE-el
r a m b o l i: haha
Boiskov: B's dad yelling the spoiler about Palmer coming back over his desperate overtures not to tell him
r a m b o l i: maybe they should all be in "more like..." format
r a m b o l i: haha
Keasbey Mornings: Whenever a moment is about a character death it should be
Boiskov: Dyin' Chappelle
Keasbey Mornings: More like DEAD-gar
Keasbey Mornings: Tony Al-Passed Away-da
r a m b o l i: David Embalmed-er
r a m b o l i: these should be presented by the cryptkeeper
Keasbey Mornings: Hahahaha
Boiskov: man, we never included a Ronny Lobell moment
Boiskov: him telling Jack he's not afraid to stop him cold
Keasbey Mornings: you cant turn his name into a pun about death
Boiskov: should that make it guys y/n
Keasbey Mornings: ronnie doing the weak interrogation
Boiskov: Hahaha yeah
Boiskov: If we do a Ronny moment it has to be that
r a m b o l i: i actually have no recollection of ronnie lobell, even after rereading your ronnie lobell article
Boiskov: We can be sure to include Jack coming in and drilling the guy in the leg
Boiskov: He was the guy who had Jack's job in Season 4 before being killed
Keasbey Mornings: Hahaha yeah
Keasbey Mornings: Ronnie was awesome
Keasbey Mornings: He was Driscoll's right hand man
Boiskov: He sucker-punched Jack and got the best of him
Boiskov: a real cold-cocker
r a m b o l i: actually, i never saw the first like 5 episodes of season 4, because that was the first season i started watching and i didn't start until a little while in
Boiskov: they were bizarro episodes
Keasbey Mornings: Basically, when we meet Ronnie he's trying to work over this one suspect, but he's being a total dork about it
Keasbey Mornings: Like, a pre-pubescent Jack Bauer doing the "tell me where the _____ is" with a quivery voice and everything
r a m b o l i: hahaha
Boiskov: they featured such diffuse characters as martha logan and the girl megan babysat smokin a blunt together
Boiskov: the girl kim babysat, megan that is heh ehehh
Boiskov: Ronny actually says "We have ways to make you talk"
Boiskov: cracked me up
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r a m b o l i: by the way, something about the abusive dad run actually strikes me as the most contrived, ridiculous kim moment, more so even than the cougar
Boiskov: I see what you mean
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Basher Lemming: how did he do that twice
r a m b o l i: not least of all because unlike her preposterous entanglements otherwise, it has nothing to do with the main action of the show is just such a stock "dangerous situation" for a young female character
Boiskov: I invited him and he left at light speed apparently
Boiskov: yeah exactly
r a m b o l i: *show and is just such a...
r a m b o l i: what's the good word, bill
r a m b o l i: how's yer hammer hangin
Basher Lemming: if you are refering to my penis it is okay
r a m b o l i: i was and am glad to hear it
Boiskov: Does anyone have a crap moment that they wouldn't mind giving up for a spot for Ronny?
r a m b o l i: ramon salazar getting blown up isn't really that memorable to me
Boiskov: cool, thanks
r a m b o l i: np
Boiskov: ronny at #83 it is!
Boiskov: I'm thinking maybe we should stack the beginning of the list with more show-flattering moments
r a m b o l i: how much of a fuck-you would it be to just make ronny lobell's interrogation the number one moment
Boiskov: because I think there's the possibility that Fox will see this list and might possibly let it pass if it looks like we're showing it in a favorable enough light
Boiskov: hahaha
Boiskov: so maybe we could put the Toyota reveal a little further up, maybe 85ish?
r a m b o l i: yeah, that thought had crossed my mind too...we kick off the list with a series of moments that are more about how dumb the show can be at times, with the ultimate thesis that that dumbness is part of a broader ridiculousness that m
r a m b o l i: akes the show so addictive in spite of and because of its contrivedness and intensity and so on
r a m b o l i: but if we start the article with those dumb moments, that might not really come across
Boiskov: exactly what i was thinking
Basher Lemming: but dumb moments don't really deserve to be higher
Basher Lemming: fuk the h8az
Boiskov: well, it's all arbitrary until we get to like the top 20
Basher Lemming: it's not that arbitrary
Boiskov: 65% arbitrary
Basher Lemming: I think people will get it
Boiskov: I'm used to people skimming over stuff I write and ending up with a really superficial impression of it
r a m b o l i: well, you know the old saw, bill...no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the fox corporation's legal division
Boiskov: We may as well plan for that possibility and move it up about ten spots
Basher Lemming: you really think that the legal department is going to care one way or the other
Boiskov: With video clips, it's very possible.
r a m b o l i: hey bill, do you feel that tugging?
Basher Lemming: if that want to bring the hammer down for copyright infringement, some dude isn't going to come running in and say "but wait! look at the children, they're all smiling! they love the list!"
r a m b o l i: that's right, it's me, grabbing your fag hair to garrote you with it
Basher Lemming: and then they all hug and forget about it
Basher Lemming: i don't think 7th meant my pubes kyle
Boiskov: You never know. One of the guys from Fox's 24 website e-mailed us last time to let us know they loved the first list
Boiskov: and are you really this perturbed about toyota reveal being 88 instead of 98
r a m b o l i: i dunno, there is actually a precedent for tv corporations letting video content stay online as long as it reflects positively on them and generates viewership
Basher Lemming: oh right that's why nbc let that narnia thing stay on youtube
Basher Lemming: oh wait they didn't
Boiskov: I'm not sure exactly what you're arguing at this point Bill
Basher Lemming: i want some applesauce is that so fucking much jon
r a m b o l i: well that's just the thing, that was at the early end of the content-by-request revolution or whatever, and now nbc specifically has let similar videos stay online
Basher Lemming: You really think Fox is going to only read the first ten items and then be like "this is an outrage!"
r a m b o l i: and i know fox has let people leave videos of some of their shows on youtube, daily motion, and other sites, the idea being that it will get people watching
r a m b o l i: do you really think your not gay
r a m b o l i: lil nublet has much to learn
Basher Lemming: if they care that much then they'll read the whole list and they won't get pissed anyway
Boiskov: I'm not so sure. Corporate types aren't so keen to read through a whole bunch of stuff
Boiskov: i.e. our decor for some of the Calvin and Hobbes stuff had to go but our big strips list could stay
Basher Lemming: but our strips list involved reading
r a m b o l i: heh, think you mean "e.g." there, you brainless oaf
Boiskov: knuckle-dragging primate
r a m b o l i: i wear special gloves now, mr. know-it-all
Boiskov: well let's just put the issue to rest. Can we take it to a vote?
Boiskov: I vote we move Toyota reveal up ten spots
r a m b o l i: i am fine with that
Basher Lemming: i vote you two should make out cuz your gay for each other
Boiskov: roastedtoastedbilledtoacrisp
r a m b o l i: haha, jokes on you bill, i am a beautiful lady of affluence
Basher Lemming: jokes on you, so is jon
r a m b o l i: btw where is justin
r a m b o l i: where hot dikes
Boiskov: his isp is experiencing a pirate outage
Boiskov: yarr shiver me bandwidth
Boiskov: Kyle, you mind uploading an updated version of the list?
r a m b o l i: ok, sure
r a m b o l i: just a mo, here....
Boiskov: *holds on tight*
r a m b o l i: btw the toyota moment is currently at 90, is that alright?
r a m b o l i: or higher?
Boiskov: 90 should be fine
Basher Lemming: i think it should be number 1
r a m b o l i: and the number one reason why jack is high all the fuckin time...
Basher Lemming: marijuana cigarettes?
r a m b o l i: ok, it's up in the same place
r a m b o l i: which is to say
r a m b o l i: i
r a m b o l i: er
Boiskov: This order looks pretty solid to me
Boiskov: are you guys happy with it?
r a m b o l i: i am happy with it
Boiskov: bill's noddin' off in right field!
Boiskov: pickin' dandelions!
Boiskov: sawin' logs!
Basher Lemming: i am fine with it
r a m b o l i: ol reluctant bill
Boiskov: that ol codger
Boiskov: well this is awesome, I'll begin putting clips together tonight
r a m b o l i: :0)
Boiskov: after I do a few I'll be able to figure out exactly how long it'll take me
Boiskov: with that I suppose that I will get out of this god dam chat room
r a m b o l i: me too, have fun by yourself, bill-tch
Boiskov: pffff-hah