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james just loves crippled people

[Mike]

FDR turned a blind eye toward Hitler and WWII until Pearl Harbor. Can someone give me an example of when MLK turned a blind eye toward anything ever?




Besides the gun that shot him I mean.

[Z.S. Ghost]

FDR turned a blind eye toward Hitler and WWII until Pearl Harbor. Can someone give me an example of when MLK turned a blind eye toward anything ever?

Besides the gun that shot him I mean.

Swish. After reading through the thread, tough decision... but voting FDR.

[Folby]

FDR turned a blind eye toward Hitler and WWII until Pearl Harbor.

I voted King but don't think you're being fair to FDR here. He had every intention of entering the war but waiting for the right time. You can argue that there's a callousness in letting other people die because you're waiting for the best time, politically speaking, to enter the fray, but FDR didn't have his head in the sand. I don't feel like looking it up but I seem to recall there being a fair amount of evidence that he (and other bigwigs) knew Pearl Harbor was coming but didn't do anything about it because they needed a reason to enter the war (which they wanted to do.)

[Kristen]

I don't feel like looking it up but I seem to recall there being a fair amount of evidence that he (and other bigwigs) knew Pearl Harbor was coming but didn't do anything about it because they needed a reason to enter the war (which they wanted to do.)

I truly believe it was Winston Churchill who knew it was coming and didn't say anything. FDR may have had some idea that an attack could happen but was actually pretty surprised when Pearl Harbor was attacked, according to several eye witnesses.

[Mike]

not my prime minister

[Captain Hot Stuff]

FDR turned a blind eye toward Hitler and WWII until Pearl Harbor.

I thought FDR was the one who was constantly trying to enter WWII, but whose attempts were frustrated by the stubborn isolationist ideology of the American people?

[Kristen]

Yes, you are correct.

[Hanstock]

halcyon days of yore

[Captain Hot Stuff]

Oh yeah I just remembered FDR did this:

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=949

Whether Operation Pastorius’s slapdash team of blue-collar workers and government pencil-pushers ever posed much of a threat is somewhat debatable. At the time of their capture, most of the saboteurs were too busy visiting gambling establishments and prostitutes to be planning any major acts of sabotage. Several were reuniting with family they’d left behind in America, while another had met up with an old girlfriend and was in the process of planning his wedding. The German High Command had perhaps misjudged the wisdom of sending naturalized citizens to attack their own adopted country. Nevertheless, the only concern of the US government was in reassuring its citizens and sending a powerful message to the Nazis. Since the men hadn’t actually committed any crime, a normal court could sentence them to at most a few years in prison—or even acquit them entirely. To President Roosevelt, this was unacceptable. In a memorandum sent to Attorney General Biddle, he wrote: “Surely they are as guilty as it is possible to be and it seems to me that the death penalty is almost obligatory.”

If nobody can provide reasonable justification for the internment of Japanese/German civilians, voting for MLK.

[rimrocka]

it was acceptable because people were mad racist back then

u should vote FDR cuz he a dime