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[Spaceninja]

I guess you guys were trying to avoid throwing out a cliche everyone's seen, but I'm really surprised you guys didn't include Liefeld's legendary Captain America. Or an example of his fondness for swiping, for that matter.

[Rusty Cooledge v2]

I've lost a lot of respect for those who speak Spanish today. How the fuck is that a coincidence?!

Anyway, awesome update. Eli was indeed better than me. And the 40 worst drawings had me laughing and looking like an idiot in school, so thanks a lot!

[Bismark]

That gun is totally bending in the middle, right? It’s not just me?

It's not so much that it's bending, it's that the muzzle is pointed in a completely different direction as the rest of the gun would have you think. Like, the bullets come out and shoot up and to the left. Just like the gun on the GTA3 disc.

As someone that tried very hard for years to work on drawing comic-style heroes and action, this man finding success is infuriating. He is the Thomas Kinkade of comic book art.

[mreow]

I was laughing so much at that Rob Liefeld article. The part that got me the most was:

The man is a pair of blue jeans with a face. He has on a backwards cap, and when he turns it around, it's still backwards.

I didn't know who he was but after that description I had a good idea. I read the part about the people running with their arms straight out to my brother because he asked me what I was laughing at and he agreed that this was the case with Rob Liefeld and he thought it was funny too. Great stuff guys.
I love Eli Wallach. I like how Wallach's response is sort of mean like he's lost patience.
And Hyspace is of course funny. I was hoping for a Dolly Parton joke on the Jolene one and one was humorously delivered.

[Terry Cheesecake]

I fucking hate Rob Liefeld. Quality article.

[Maynard,]

Rob Liefeld article was hilarious. In particular I loved 30 and 15. 30 because I tried to read the panel before the description and couldn't quite figure out what was happening until I realized it didn't make sense. 15 because "the world's fastest" portrait artist came by a local mall once and pulled the same face on every person I draw trick and I was the only one that noticed.

I really liked Ask Eli Wallach. I really like the touch of the person lying inside the digital display. I almost used my snooze alarm today and now I'm kind of glad I didn't.

[webber]

I thought Rob Liefield appealed to 13-15 year olds, not adult comic book collectors (although I guess they have similar mindsets)

[Alan]

The Rob Liefeld article was fucking fantastic. I read it all day at school in between classes and really had to hold back laughter because it was a quiet computer lab. Then when I got home I picked up my girlfriend and we sat at my computer while I read the ENTIRE article to her because I loved it so much. She did too once I had finished, she's an artist herself so she was literally going 'WTF' with all those strips. In conclusion it was AWESOME

Eli Wallach was one of my favorites yet, because this one really related to me as well. I not only set my alarm an hour before I 'need' to get up, but I also set the CLOCK ITSELF a half hour later than the real time so that when my alarm goes off I can say 'well I still have an hour to sleep' and then when an hour passes I can be like 'well technically I still have another half hour.' I always tell myself at night that I'll MAKE myself get up on time but I always end up sleeping longer than I should.

And Hyspace is always awesome.

[Casey]

The Liefeld article had me cracking up, and thankfully I knew it would so I didn't read it at work. I remember reading his comics when I was young (my brother was the one buying the comics at the time, I swear), and being so upset with the terrible art that I would just kind of skim the books, focusing on what seemed like an "awesome" story at the time.

Eli Wallach was beautifully depressing. Of course. I am currently in a snooze button phase. Sigh.

I'll catch up on Hyspace later, when I've played more of Phantom Hourglass than the opening scene.

[Whittle]

the rob leifeld article was hilarious. i dont read comic books so i had no idea what to expect going in, but good lord that was awesome. the last one that proves he just draws stuff in is prefect, because the gun in the second frame stands out so much against the black underside of the rock.

[Jon]

The Liefeld post cracked me the hell up. I'm really glad B and Hanstock decided to make it such a large list, because it was awesome throughout.

I think the ideas behind Ask Eli Wallach can be applied several different ways, depending on who's reading it. Folby's responsible for what might be the most uniquely great comic on the Internet.

And this was just silly.

[Andy]

The Leifield list was awesome, I knew nothing of the guy goin into it but Jesus Christ if that first image doesn't say it all. That woman's back is nothing but a stretched out fucking slinky with pork shoulders dangling from it. I don't know who wrote what, you guys had a pretty solid flow throughout, as if you were OF ONE MIND. That thing with the guns are fucking ridiculous, just redo it you asshole. See, I hate these kinds of drawings, it's one of the reasons I don't ever want to watch Aeon Flux.

Hyspace was good, but to be totally honest, not the best I've seen out of that subsection. It might have been my unfamiliarity with anything Phantom Hourglass, and for that matter the Majoras Mask boss, but it seemed like there were some easy jokes taken, which you guys usually don't take unless they are funny for that very reason. Still liked it, just probably would have had more goodness if it had been written in a not-so-busy time for you Mike. Moving is a bitch, and thats from a guy who's never moved out of city, much less state, so I cant really hold you too hard on the grindstone. Good work.

Folby, again I must say how much better I like these longer Wallachs. So much easier to get, and thus enjoy/appreciate. This one is an instantly relatable situation for everyone I think, just one of those little vices we can never seem to ween ourselves off of. Criticism wise theres not much to criticize with you, it's such a sparse product, with that home-made personal style that you've made, so the only gripe I have is one that I'm not even commited to. I can't decide if I am annoyed by the scratched out words or pleased by them. Its such a personal kind of visual representation you chose for this, the imperfections and the ball-point pen drawings. I can't decide if Iike them for the extra personal touch, or if it feels like too much to the point where it comes off as lazy. I hope you dont take that badly, Im not trying to imply laziness, just that it is in some parts of my head feeling like that more than style.
Anyway, good job dogg
Good job everyone, and thank you for hopping back on the weekly update train! Light up my Tuesday afternoons once more!

[Dollo]

Fucking loved the Leifield list that you guys did. Kudos on all the lol's.

[Cory/Corrinna]

Totally addicted to the Liefeld article, and of course, hyspace. Yes, Eli is better than me, because that particular comic filled me with shame. I'll admit that when forcing myself to just wake up, I set my alarm to 11 am, reset it to noon or 1pm, only to wake up at 2pm. I blame having really awesome dreams for this, and of course, being really lazy.

Back to Liefeld: I'm probably going to reread this over and over and pass it around to anyone I know, because it's just amazing. I used to read a lot of Xmen in '93, and recently got into the Maxx and Sandman...but never once understood who the hell Liefeld was. And, this article makes me cringe at the thought that I overlooked alot of his artistic abominations for years, if I had indeed read any of his work.
I like to think though, that some of the character might be allowed such insane proportions due to their backgrounds though? I mean, The Maxx is supposedly in a sort of dream land, where everything is pretty much disproportionate in order to add to the surreality?
But yeah, thanks to this article, it makes me think I can draw pretty awesome compared to this douchebag.

Thanks for the update guys!

[Folby]

Folby, again I must say how much better I like these longer Wallachs. So much easier to get, and thus enjoy/appreciate. This one is an instantly relatable situation for everyone I think, just one of those little vices we can never seem to ween ourselves off of. Criticism wise theres not much to criticize with you, it's such a sparse product, with that home-made personal style that you've made, so the only gripe I have is one that I'm not even commited to. I can't decide if I am annoyed by the scratched out words or pleased by them. Its such a personal kind of visual representation you chose for this, the imperfections and the ball-point pen drawings. I can't decide if Iike them for the extra personal touch, or if it feels like too much to the point where it comes off as lazy. I hope you dont take that badly, Im not trying to imply laziness, just that it is in some parts of my head feeling like that more than style.
Anyway, good job dogg
Good job everyone, and thank you for hopping back on the weekly update train! Light up my Tuesday afternoons once more!

Thanks for the kind words, and as for the particular style, I fully admit that Wallach is not my best work as an artist. This week in particular, though, I undershot so to speak. I intentionally underworked drawings, did not connect lines where they should have connected, and didn't fix anything or touch anything up once it was down. The scratched out word is the same effcect, ordinarily I take my time with the lettering, putting effort into not fucking it up. This week I was going for a subtle 'coming apart at the seams' look. That's what you're seeing there.

The larger Wallach gives me more space to work with and in the future I hope to put more time and effort into the art. Also I switched to fancy art pens instead of bic ballpoint.

[Andy]

is dollo footing the bill

he better

[Borkelmans]

The Liefeld article is simply amazing. I've read a lot of comics from that era, but I never really put that much thought into anatomy and such (and apparently, neither did Rob!) Here's a couple of other things I noticed from those pictures:

#24- What the hell is up with her hands? She's Vulcan-saluting with one and playing an invisible keyboard with the other.
#20- Look at the unnatural angle at which the hand is flying. Did Rob just not want to have to worry about drawing all the veins n such inside?
#17- This is just about the worst leg he's ever drawn. It looks like he's got Popeye forearms for calves.
#12- Nothing specific, just Tempo's costume makes her look like Cid from FFVI.
#7- An up-close example of how Rob still hasn't quite figured out how hilts work.

Great updates, gang

[Ragingape]

Sorry I didn't get around to this sooner.

I really enjoyed the look at Liefeld. X-Force was one of my favorite comics but for the life of me I couldn't tell you why now. I remember noticing errors in the art back then and assuming it was just part of the comic book process but never really noticing that it kept happening in X-Force and not the other comics I was reading at the time. A few comments.

but we both don't appreciate Garth Ennis having Superman demand blowjobs in a comic and expecting people to call him a genius.

in cahoots

he has never seen or talked to a woman in his life and has no idea what they look like or how their bodies operate.

Very true, however it was a byproduct of the Image hyperstyle of comic drawing and is not exclusively Liefeld. He is probably the worst offender however. I'm not disagreeing.

Feet.

Also not exclusively Liefeld. All Image artists were terrible at drawing feet. Jim Lee used to draw fat noodles at the end of people's legs and it was called dynamic.

Boy can old Rob design a costume!

Let it just be said that Liefeld's character designs suck and the only reason anybody likes any of his characters is because of how other writers have used them. I love Deadpool but not because of how Liefeld used him.

Domino is supposed to be about 1/8th the size of Cable.

Cable's armor triples his size. This is true despite it offering no restrictions in his movement or ability to aim his huge dumbass space weapons. I hated Cable forever because I would get called that a lot by people who can't pronounce my name.

Liefeld smiles, pats himself on the back for a job well done, and slams a Dew.

This is the most perfect summary of the founding of Image comics I have ever read.

Featured in the comic were The Maxx (who ruled)

I think the fact that a character in a comic making fun of Image comics was deeper than any of their SuperStrikeTeam comics is hilarious.

magically changing hairstyles.

Liefeld's inconsistency used to drive me nuts. Cable's costume would change four times in a single fight. How did no one notice this?

Rob Liefeld drew this ENTIRE page of a comic book before realizing that Franklin was supposed to be holding a gun

I think the idea of Liefeld drawing panels and then going back and retouching them to fit his stories that he writes later is one of the most wonderful theories I ever heard.

All this being said, I fell into the Image frenzy in the early nineties. I tried rereading a lot of the old comics a while back and couldn't believe how bad they are. I would say it was style over substance but the style is awful as well. No part of those comics stood the test of time. At least it put pressure on Marvel and DC to find and develop talent I guess.

I haven't played the new Zelda so I could only enjoy some of the Hyspace update. That being said:

Not only will no one get that joke, but you can't get the Giant's Mask before seeing me anyway. Sucks to be you!

Would you be willing to explain this?
Good work as always regardless. It never occured to me that a person could have sex with a bat so congratulations.

Eli Wallach is becoming better and better at finding things about myself that annoy me. I felt so undressed at the end of this weeks strip. Pholby = Better than me.

Thanks a bunch everyone.

[Mike]

Gomess was also the name of a Godzilla clone in one of the Ultra series from the '60s or so. I don't recall which one, but he is defeated by a giant chicken with laser breath or some shit.