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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2025 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be next on my list as soon as I'm done downloading Space Cases.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most of us saw this coming:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060313/ap_en_tv/people_isaac_hayes

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Isaac Hayes has quit "South Park," where he voices Chef, saying he can no longer stomach its take on religion.

Hayes, who has played the ladies' man/school cook in the animated Comedy Central satire since 1997, said in a statement Monday that he feels a line has been crossed.

"There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins," the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.

"Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored," he continued. "As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices."

"South Park" co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he's cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians."

Last November, "South Park" targeted the Church of Scientology and its celebrity followers, including actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta, in a top-rated episode called "Trapped in the Closet." In the episode, Stan, one of the show's four mischievous fourth graders, is hailed as a reluctant savior by Scientology leaders, while a cartoon Cruise locks himself in a closet and won't come out.

Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin."


I'd say Matt pretty much nailed it there.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd make fun of Scientology here but honestly it makes as much sense as the other current religions.

It is kinda sad that Chef is going, but if that's how Isaac Hayes is gonna play then fuck it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in seeing what happens to the Chef character since Hayes no longer voice it. Matt Stone and Trey Parker will probably give him a royal send off, heh.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man... I never thought I'd say this, but: fuck Isaac Hayes.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirbyoto wrote:
I'd make fun of Scientology here but honestly it makes as much sense as the other current religions.


The difference with Scientology is that L. Ron Hubbard has gone on record as saying he completely made it up and it's total ass, but Scientologists deny it outright.

Hubbard is now dead.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone read the article in a recent Rolling Stone (the one with Shaun White on the cover) about Scientology? Crazy stuff, and I find it quite creepy too. Especially that they worship someone they call Xenu who came to Earth on a Boeing 747 or some other Jet like that.


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Well anyway, if you read the article, you know all about the town in Florida dedicated to Scientology and all the creeps that flock there. Weird fucks, I'm glad Matt Stone said what he did and that the two of them made that episode. It was a classic
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After seeing the episode in question (and particularly the story behind scientology) I have revised my vision of Scientology to AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA *cough* *hack* HAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA AHAHAHAH

Seriously, come on. It's a little bit campy for Science Fiction, nevermind a religion.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People with religious beliefs say the darnedest things~!

ctoner wrote:
I'm interested in seeing what happens to the Chef character since Hayes no longer voice it. Matt Stone and Trey Parker will probably give him a royal send off, heh.

Chef doesn't necessarily have to be removed. They've had a voice actor die before & replaced her just fine, & I'm sure there are plenty of voice actors who can pull off an Isaac Hayes impression.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Target commercials strike me as vaguely fascist. There are multiple ethnicities in all of them, but they're all always dressed in similar styles and the colors are always really bold and all in line with each other. The commercials scream "We don't care who you are, but get the fuck in line." It's about homogenizing things. It took me a lot of Target commercials to figure out why they bothered me, but I finally got it; they're Nazis.

Similarly, the Old Navy commercials have always rubbed me the wrong way, and I never knew why. But now I've got it. They're a cult. In contrast to the hard lines and speed-ravaged world of Target, Old Navy is about free love, for a low, low price. But they strike me as the kind of person who would snap at you, "You're doing it wrong." Come on man, don't be that way dude, just get in line.

I hate advertising.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, I would normally agree with you, but the AP article smacked of something venemous, going as far as acussing Hayes of bigotry. Parker and Stone are never ones to keep their bridges open; I expect something explosive... and very, very funny.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed South Park seem to be using Chef less anyway. And I'm not just talking recently. I'm talking over the last two years they've been using him less.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2025 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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about target


Let me tell you about Target. I've been working there for two months now during the early morning flow shift, where I show up at four in the morning and don't deal with customers 90% of the time. And even though we don't mess with customers and we have no reason to be pleased to be standing in the cold at 3:45 a.m., we HAVE to:

a) wear matching red shirts with white pants and wear name tags, and

b) we have to be cheerful. Like, smile on our face all the time. Fuck that, I can't smile at four in the morning!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't hold your breath if you're waiting for a job where they don't make you wear uniforms or be nice to customers.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbuktu wrote:
Anyone read the article in a recent Rolling Stone (the one with Shaun White on the cover) about Scientology? Crazy stuff, and I find it quite creepy too. Especially that they worship someone they call Xenu who came to Earth on a Boeing 747 or some other Jet like that.


I'm just baffled as to how it got so popular. I mean, I don't really want to knock a religion being I'm so faithful to mine and know what it's like, but this one doesn't seem much more credible than your average cult. This one just has celebrities. I don't mean to flat out badmouth it, I just don't get why it was embraced so rapidly by so many.

This also reminds me of the cult episode on Simpsons. Which I remember little to nothing about. Curse my memory.

EDIT: I found the article if anyone wants to see it. It's pretty interesting. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9363363/inside_scientology
Really long read.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to keep flossing a dead horse, but did anyone dead The Simpsons on Sunday? Jesus, it's like watching a train wreck. At this point I keep tuning in just to boggle at the sheer number of nails they can drive into one coffin. You would think they would have run out of nails by now, BUT NO.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching Simpsons' new stuff bring a pain to me I can't quite ignore.

I still watch Colbert Report every chance I get. Other than that I've been watching Real World regularily for the first time ever, usually just because it's the only thing of mild interest I can find to watch in the middle of the day.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shamrock wrote:
I wouldn't hold your breath if you're waiting for a job where they don't make you wear uniforms or be nice to customers.


But there are no costumers. That's my point.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

then how do you get your uniform
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2025 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I still watch Colbert Report every chance I get.


Aye, Colbert's show is getting more and more popular now. And his "right-wing commentator" persona has become really refined, I think.

I especially liked his interview with Huffington: "I'm not a truthiness fanatic; I'm truthiness's father." And his response when she told him Wikipedia said he only popularised the word: "Fuck them!"
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