Questions about ROH/etiquette/etc

[dlomyhero]

I'm going to my first ever ROH show on Saturday, March 11th. It will be a double-header with CZW, with ROH starting at 4:00 and CZW starting 45-60 minutes after ROH is over. Both cards are listed below, but I want to know some things.

Sadly, I've seen nary a Samoa Joe match, nor a Bryan Danielson match, et al. I don't know their entrance music (which probably comes as a surprise), I don't know their key spots, and I don't know any chants that may accompany anything at all.

Basically, I'm looking for any info on how to not look like an ass, not look like a total newbie, how to get the most enjoyment out of the show, and any general etiquitte to follow at an independent show. Also, let me know when the best time to hold up a "FREE MATT HARDY" or "CHRIS MASTERS = WORK RATE" sign would be.

CZW is mostly trash but there's a 6-way ladder match so I'm in.

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ROH Information

ROH World Title Match
Bryan Danielson (if still champion) defends against Alex Shelley with Prince Nana

Three Way Dance
Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels vs. Colt Cabana

Special Challenge Match # 1
Austin Aries vs. Matt Sydal

Special Challenge Match # 2
BJ Whitmer vs. Necro Butcher

"Enter The Dragon" Rematch
Roderick Strong vs. Jimmy Yang

Tag Team Scramble Match
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Dunn & Marcos vs. Homicide & Ricky Reyes vs. Jason Blade & Kid Mikaze

Do or Die Match
Crazy J & Lotus vs. Tony Mamaluke & Sal Rinauro

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CZW Information

CZW Iron Man Championship
Kevin Steen defends against Super Dragon

CZW World Jr. Heavyweight Championship Ladder Match
Derek Frazier defends against, Sabian, Heretic, Niles Young, Cheech, and Cloudy

UVU Championship
Nick Gage defends against Danny Havoc and DJ Hyde

Necro Butcher vs ????

Justice Pain vs El Generico
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[Rogue]

Theme songs:

Joe comes out to Mama Said by LL Cool J or The Champ Is Here by Jadakiss. Either one has a Godzilla intro, so you'll know it's him.

Dragon comes out to Europe's Final Countdown.

Spots:

Joe beats the piss out of people. That's pretty much what to watch for. He also likes to Ole kick people, which is a running knee while the opponent is sitting on a chair in a corner at ringside. The crowd sings the chorus to Ole! at that point. As far as chants go, my personal fav is when Joe's opponent angers Joe too mcuh, and the crowd sings "Joe's gonna kill youuuu! Joe's gonna kill youuuuu!"

Dragon doesn't care what you chant or what you think, so if you suggest to him that he do something in a match, he's liable to flip you off. The only "chant" I can think of is when he has his opponent in a sitting surfboard, he'll rock him back-and-forth a few times before lifting him up in the air. Each time, he likes to shout out "whoaaaaaaa!" and the crowd usually follows suit.

Etiquette? Um, don't scream out stupid shit to "get yourself over", as some people call it. If you have a comment to shout out, at least try to make it something clever or, in the case of YOU FUCKING SUCK AZRAEL, something random and immortal.

Other than that, just have fun, take in the crowd, and cheer for the people that strike your fancy. I've never been a fan of the cheer-this-guy-just-cuz-he's-a-face mentality, or vice-versa. So even though some fans might tell you otherwise, I'd say root for whoever you want. Unless it's Dragon, cuz he rules too much to be booed. Besides, if you boo him, kittens will die and Folby will stab you with every knife in his kitchen.

[Jim]

Head referee Todd Sinclair is fat. Be sure to let him know this. Also, I would avoid taking a sign, as you'll simply piss off the people behind you. Most importantly? Have fun. I don't forsee that being difficult, though.
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[pholby]

IF YOU DO NOT CHANT CORRECTLY, THEY WILL THROW YOU OUT. I suggest you spend every waking moment from now until then practicing your dueling chants. If you don't chant right they kick out out. Just say it softly to yourself, "Let's go guy 1!" then "let's go guy 2!" When they show is going on, just switch out 'guy 1' and 'guy 2' for whoever is in the ring. And it really doesn't matter who is in the ring; anytime there's more than one person in the ring, they need a dueling chant. If one guy is sweeping up a broken table and another guy is wiping down the ropes, you chant. If it's the head ref and the ring announcer standing there waiting for everything to be ready, chant.

Don't worry about theme music, you not knowing it will prevent you from clapping and/or pounding the guardrails out of time, which is a good thing. I would also suggest not bringing signs, because signs are lame. Just enjoy yourself. Oh, and boo the shit out of Necro Butcher. Call him names, and imply that he is not welcome in any place where quality wrestling is valued.
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"You're a pussy, Strong!"

"Woah woah woah."

[dlomyhero]

Don't worry, I was definitely kidding about the signs. I've been to a couple WWE shows (one Raw, one house), so I know the atmosphere, but I also know that this will be entirely different. I'm just figuring that I'll take in as much as I can without appearing like a newbie. I'll be with 5 others who, as far as I know, have never been to an indy show.

I'll boo Necro Butcher. And Ruckus if he's there.

Thanks for the help friends! I'm so pumped for Saturday christ
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[B]

[pholby]

That reminds me, it's time for a new signature.
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"You're a pussy, Strong!"

"Woah woah woah."

[dlomyhero]

Thomas Haden Church that's awesome B

And I won't do anything like Lita, except maybe borrow one of her shirts.
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[Jim]

Yes. I forgot to mention that you should rip on Jack Evans mercilessly. I was lucky to have been surrounded by a few of the funnier hecklers in the crowd, so they enjoyed my "Walk your ass back across 8 Mile, B Rabbit!" However, the comment of the night came during the tag title match. Some guy at the end of my section said something along the lines of "The god of the backbreaker saw pity and sent us his one begotten son!" I believe that it illicted a turn and "what the fuck?" out of Roderick Strong.
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[dlomyhero]

So I went to the show on Saturday. We got a little lost so we missed the first match (Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Dunn & Marcos vs. Homicide & Ricky Reyes vs. Jason Blade & Kid Mikaze), but we showed up just as Roderick strong was doing his third backbreaker to Jimmy Yang. Since we got there late, we had to stand in awkward places (mostly behind the building's support poles), but we still had a general good view being only 10 feet from the railing.

Yang VS Strong was very good, but I don't remember the outcome or the match really, as we were still trying to get situated.

Next was supposed to be BJ Whitmer VS Necro Butcher, but it never happened as tons of people ended up rushing the ring because of the whole ROH/CZW feud. I was chanting for ROH all night.

Next was Austin Aries VS Matt Sydal. Sydal used "Clavicle" by Alkaline Trio. This was an awesome match which saw a finish with a perfect 450 by Austin Aries. He wasn't wearing his Rob Conway/gay guy from Streets of Rage 3 stuff at this show, though. At the end, the Briscoes rushed the ring, and Sydal ended up challenging them to a match and teaming with AJ Styles.

Then there was a break for like 30 minutes. We came back to an unannounced match, Dempsey Brothers VS Pelle Primeau and Shane Hagadorn. This was a slower match, but the end was awesome; Primeau had a triangle told locked in, but the thinner of the Dempsey Brothers picked him up with one arm and chokeslammed him for the pin. Shane Hagadorn had a "South Beach Diet!" chant at him.

Next was Irish Airborn (that's how they spelled it on their trunks, unless the E fell off) VS Tony Mamaluke and Sal Rinauro. This match was much better than the previous, with an awesome finish: one of Irish Airborn had Rinauro up for a Burning Hammer, and his tag-team double-foot-stomped his head, knocking him over onto the original guy's knee.

Next was holy fucking shit Bryan Danielson VS Alex Shelley. Prince Nana is all kinds of awesome but I don't know why; maybe it's his hat. Before the match, Danielson gets the mic and starts going on that he thought ROH crowds were classy and wouldn't curse, especially because there's a little girl in the front row. Then he turns to the crowd and says, "But now this little girl is flipping me off with both hands!" and the place erupted with a "She's hardcore!" chant. After it calmed, Danielson said, "I WILL PUNCH HER RIGHT IN THE FUCKING FACE." Awesome. He continues his promo, saying that he's the best technical wrestler to ever step foot into the ECW arena, and he'll do justice for the likes of Chris Jericho, for Chris Benoit, for Eddie Guerrero. At the end of the promo, he rushes out of the ring and to the guardrail with a fist raised. Fucking awesome.

After the match starts, some fans start chanting, "Shelley sucks cock!" He yells back to them, "I do not, I prefer vaginal sex!" Some other fans starting heckling him, so he grabs the mic and says, "I don't go to McDonalds, slap the burger out of your hand, and tell you how to do your job. I don't go to the corner, slap the dick out of your friend's mouth, and tell him how to do his job. So just shut up and let us work." Awesome.

For about 5 minutes, they traded holds and it started out generally slow; some people started chanting, "Borrrr-ingggg" and Danielson started to mock them by doing the same thing. They were probably CZW fans. In the end, this was definitely the best match of the night. About midway through, Dragon dumped Nana and Shelley into the crowd. Danielson got into the ring and did a springboard somersault into the crowd. HOLY SHIT I tried to take a picture but my camera was taking too long to load, so I just stopped and watched. It was amazing, my brother and I were just jumping up and down saying "holy shit holy shit" over and over. The finish was incredible. Shelley went for a Sliced Bread #2, Danielson rolled over Shelley's back, floated over, cradled him, and got the pin (well, something like that, it all blurred together due to speed/awesomeness).

Then, Danielson got the mic and said, "If you thought that was boring, then stick around for the next show. But if you like real professional wrestling, keep supporting ROH!" And the ROH chants broke out all over. Danielson is fucking awesome in every conceivable way ever.

Last was Samoa Joe VS Christopher Daniels VS Colt Cabana. But apparently, Joe's plane was "late" and it would continue on as a singles match between Cabana and Daniels. Daniels had Allison Danger with him, which distracted me for the first five minutes of the match. :O The match was very good but unfortunately not very memorable. As soon as Cabana scored the 3-count on Daniels, Samoa Joe's music hit. Joe eventually hit two musclebusters for the win; the look on his face after he didn't score a pin after the first one was awesome. I think that Daniels and Joe worked a lighter match because of the TNA PPV that was on last night.

So there's this kid in the crowd in a Rockets jersey that's been an ass all night long. Alot of people had toilet paper rolls, including him. After the match, BJ Whitmer was back in the ring with a mic with Joe, and Joe was standing in the ring facing where this kid was sitting. The last thing I could think of doing would be to throw a toilet paper roll at Joe's stomach; and of course, that's exactly what this little fucking idiot did. The whole place went, "ohhhhhhhhhhhh" and the Joe rushed the barrier! I think he ended up palming the kid's face! And the security guards were telling me and my friends to move so they could get over there and separate it all!

Whitmer ended up calling out CZW wrestlers, and soon ROH and CZW guys were all inside the ring, fighting. Messiah came out with a weedwhacker; someone else had a barbed-wire baseball bat; neither were used. Eventually, whitmer was the only ROH guy left in the ring with a bunch of CZW guys, and they taped his wrists to the ropes with his back facing the camera. Then Zandig (or Lobo, I forget) stapled pieces of paper that said "CZW" to his back! And then to his stomach! And then to his forehead! Then they all had cups of beer and looked pretty lame drinking beer from coffee cups as the CZW music hit. They spraypainted CZW over the ROH logo in the middle of the ring.

So ROH was absolutely awesome. All of us were still talking about the Danielson match for so long after both shows.

Next was CZW, which I know is crappy. The opening match was Sonjay Dutt, Adam Flash, and a newly reinstated B-Boy VS Messiah, Sexxxy Eddie, and Nate Webb. The best part was the finish, Dutt's moonsault double-foot-stomp. I want to know how Webb didn't die from that.

Next was Andy Sumner vs. Hallowicked vs. Jigsaw vs. "Sweet & Sour" Larry Sweeney, which turned out to be somewhat of a comedy match. My new second-favorite wrestler in the world, Hallowicked, ended up winning. He had Sumner up like a Burning Hammer; Jigsaw double-foot-stomped his stomach as Hallowicked dumped him, and then dropkicked Larry Sweeney; and then Hallowicked did some finisher to Jigsaw.

Next was Nick Gage VS DJ Hyde VS Danny Havoc. Trash match all around, which saw Gage get belly-to-bellied through a plate of glass against the turnbuckle by Hyde, and Havoc get pulling-piledriven from the top rope through a plate of glass set up over four chairs. This might be the best time to say that the crowd for CZW was alot...different. Oh yeah, and the ROH crowd was bigger, too.

Next was El Generico VS Justice Pain. The best spot in this match: Pain and Generico were outside of the ring, with Justice on one side of the turnbuckle and Generico on the other. El Generico dove between the bottom and middle ropes, caught Justice Pain, and did a swinging DDT. I thought he was going for a suicide dive, but that ended up being awesome. Pain won with his "lift up and throw to the ground, possibly through chairs" finisher. He told us at the end to cheer for Generico.

We took a break and came back to Kevin Steen VS Super Dragon in an Iron Man match. This was probably the worst match of the night. Before the match, Steen begged ROH to take him back because he said CZW sucked. I THINK this is what happened: BJ Whitmer ended up coming in to beat up Super Dragon, because he interfered when he was beating up Necro Butcher earlier in the night. Then, Necro Butcher came out and got Pillmaned with a chair on his leg, putting him out for whatever match he was scheduled for.

Next was the 6-way ladder match for the junior heavyweight title with the following guys: Derek Frazier (c), Sabian, Heretic, Niles Young, Cheech, and Cloudy. At least since this is a ladder match, it's expected to be a spotfest, unlike the earlier CZW matches. Lots of dangerous spots, the best of which when Cloudy did a Destroyer to Cheech on a ladder that was horizontal between the ring and barricade. I forget who won, but it was fun to watch something like that in real life.

Last was the cross-promotional match, with Generation Next (Sydal, Strong, and Aries) VS BLK OUT (Eddie Kingston (?) and Ruckus). I hate Ruckus, all he does is jump around and hope he makes contact. Eddie Kingston looks like Sinbad; I think Austin Aries is blacker than he is. Halfway through the match, Necro Butcher comes out and becomes the third member of BLK OUT for the night. He even did the most wrestling-like move of any CZW wrestler: a perfect sit-out tiger bomb. That was the ONLY move he did all night. Team ROH wins with a perfect shooting star press by Austin Aries. CZW guys rush the ring as we left etc.

ROH is awesome and CZW is trash, this I knew before I went. I'm glad ROH won the final match, but if I were Aries/Sydal/Strong, I would have been afraid to be in the ring with those CZW guys. It almost seems like CZW has no intention of protecting it wrestlers when it comes to weapons and stuff. Being in the ECW arena made me feel bad that I never saw an ECW show there, knowing how close it is to my house and stuff. I'll probably come back and add more stuff as I remember it, and I took a few pictures but I wanted to pay attention more than anything instead of use the camera. ROH was great and CZW was...entertaining but in a car-wreck, guilty-pleasure sort of way. I shook my head at every move Ruckus did; I couldn't cheer the UVU match with Nick Gage because I couldn't believe what was happening IN REAL LIFE. I clapped so hard for ROH and let them know the awesome job they were doing. I think the Pain/Generico match had more errors than the entire ROH show.

In conclusion, I will have Bryan Danielson's babies if he allows me to.
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[Justin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=squczMQyXY4
CZW fans are well-spoken, articulate and intelligent people.
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[dlomyhero]

fuck, he's wearing an eagles shirt
fuck
FUCK

why did you have to post that

"[Necro] knocked your tooth out...probably because you're weak."
Or, Necro is a fuckhead who can't wrestle.

I'm going to watch the Cornette promo right after this so I can regain some fucking brain cells.
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Asked yesterday whether it would eventually release a revised edition of "Opal Mehta," a little brown spokesman declined to comment.

[Jim]

Cornette's promo is the balls. The problem is, it's not as good as the in-ring promo that he cut in Dayton (with blood all over his face, due to his tooth "just then" being knocked out). I haven't picked up my copy of the Tag Wars 2006 DVD yet, but I hope the promo is fairly easy to hear. It's just flat-out great.
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[pholby]

"You're a fucking frontrunner!" Yes, yes we are.
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"You're a pussy, Strong!"

"Woah woah woah."

[Rusty Cooledge]

ring of homos come on guys laff
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[pholby]

[dlomyhero]

When he locked on the stretch in that 2nd picture, he started a "HOLY SHIT" chant.

And that, "I HAVE UNTIL 5" is so awesome.

Christ he's awesome.

I think that head to the left of the lower turnbuckle is my brother.
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